Realistic and hopeful
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Nowhere in the Bible does it tell us that Good News People will have it easy.
In today's episode, Gav and Phil are joined by Ness Wilson - UK leader of Pioneer Network and team leader of Open Heaven Church as they grapple with what it means to remain both realistic and hopeful when working through life's struggles.
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Released on 12 Feb 2026
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