In this episode, Luke Martin speaks to psychiatrist, neuroscientist and bestselling author Iain McGilchrist about the ideas that have made him one of the most influential thinkers of our age.
Rod Dreher has said McGilchrist’s The Matter With Things “will come to be regarded as one of the seminal texts of the century”. In this conversation, McGilchrist explores the divided brain, the crisis of meaning in modern culture, the limits of reductionism, and the importance of recovering a deeper sense of the sacred.

He also reflects personally on music, beauty, Christianity, suffering, AI, and the kind of attention needed to live well in a fragmented world.

This is a searching, moving and intellectually rich interview on what it means to be human in a technological age. For Luke Martin: follow on X https://x.com/luke_s_martin

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Released on 24 Mar 2026