Humanoid robots, the Pope's AI cyclical, and the Tower of Babel

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Esther is joined by UX and Human-Robot Interaction Designer Nia Oloyede, who is helping build the UK’s first humanoid robots, alongside Matthew Sanders, founder of Catholic AI chatbot Magisterium, to discuss Pope Leo XIV’s AI manifesto. They chat about why AI could be far more transformative than the Industrial Revolution, the "tech bros" kingdom-sized desires, and whether humanoid robots could one day replace the one job every church leader seems to dread...

Released on 16 Jun 2026

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