Should Christian leaders shy away from the spotlight?

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What defines a great Christian leader today— influence, conversions, book sales, or something deeper? With modern ministry shaped by platform followers and reach, how can leaders use visibility well without being distracted by metrics?

Rich Johnson, leader of New Wine, and Tommy Stewart, founder of Transform the World, explored these questions with Esther, as well as why platforms can cause our favourite leaders to stumble.

Released on 12 Jan 2026

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