How do you get out of debt when it feels like there’s no way out? With 8.5 million working-age adults experiencing material deprivation, what needs to be done to tackle poverty? As Andy Burnham takes his cost-of-living tour around the UK, CAP CEO Stuart McCulloch tells Producer Jamie Pratt what he makes of the new PM’s commitment to tackling poverty — and how CAP is entering a new chapter!

Released on 18 Aug 2026