In this conversation, Joy sits down with eco-therapists Jenny Biglands and Vicky Broadbent to explore the growing field of ecotherapy, where nature itself becomes a partner in the healing process. Jenny and Vicky reflect on their faith journeys, what led them into therapeutic work, and how moving outdoors has transformed their practice. They explore themes of power and vulnerability, showing how simply walking side by side or sitting beneath a tree can open new pathways to presence and change. And they wonder whether reconnecting with the natural world might help us face climate grief with courage, creativity, and love. After the conversation, Nomad hosts Anna Robinson and Joy Brooks reflect on the blurred lines between therapy, spirituality and nature connection, the importance of finding safety and edges in outdoor spaces, and how Celtic rhythms and seasonal rituals can root us more deeply in our own places. Conversation starts at 16m 08s Books, quotes, links → Want to go deeper? Jenny and Vicky are running Exploring the Sacred in Nature — a one-day retreat on 15 November in Shipley, West Yorkshire, UK. It’s a chance to slow down, explore your relationship with nature and the sacred, and discover new ways of living well. Book your place here and spend a day reconnecting with the wild within. This episode was recorded at the beautiful Cow Close Farm in Derbyshire, UK. If you’d like to stay in one of their holiday cottages and experience the same stunning surroundings, they’re offering Nomad listeners 15% off with the code nomad15. Find out more here. The creation of Nomad’s thoughtful, ad-free content is entirely funded by our equally thoughtful and wonderful listeners. By supporting us, you gain access to Nomad’s online spaces—like the Beloved Listener Lounge, Enneagram Lounge, and Book Club—as well as bonus episodes such as Nomad Contemplations, Therapeutic Reflections, and Nomad Revisited. If you’d like to join our lovely community of supporters, head over to our Patreon page. You might even be rewarded with a Nomad pen or our coveted Beloved Listener mug! If a monthly commitment isn’t possible right now, a one-off donation is always deeply appreciated—you can do that here. Looking to connect with others nearby? Check out the Listener Map or join our Nomad Gathering Facebook group. And if you're up for sharing your own story, we regularly post reflections from listeners on our blog—all with the hope of fostering deeper understanding, connection and supportive relationships. If you'd like to share your story on the blog, contact us for more information here.

Released on 24 Sep 2025