What happens to Christian faith when you experience depression, encounter abuse of power in the Church or find parts of the Bible deeply troubling?
Mark Meynell joins Luke Martin for a wide-ranging and unusually candid conversation about Christianity in the real world. Mark discusses his experience of depression and ministry, the unexpected role of music and art in sustaining faith, and why beauty itself raises profound questions about God.
He also explores the crisis of trust created by church scandals and spiritual abuse, arguing that many people now ask “Am I safe?” before they ever ask “Is Christianity true?”
Finally, Luke presses Mark on one of Scripture’s hardest questions: slavery in the New Testament, Paul’s letter to Philemon and why the Bible does not simply say slavery is wrong.

Released on 3 Nov 2026