How important is storytelling to political leadership? And how do we know when leaders are telling a compelling story—or simply spinning one?

Mythographer and Christian thinker Dr Martin Shaw joined Esther Higham to explore the power of myths, stories and testimonies. They unpack the new Prime Minister's folktales, how we pursue depth over success, and why your testimony might be even more powerful if you start telling it in the third person.

Released on 30 Jul 2026