In this timely classic edition of the Unbelievable podcast Billy Hallowell hosts theologians Tom Wright and Preston Sprinkle for a timely conversation on faith, politics and the church’s public witness. For more Tom Wright subscribe to the new YouTube Channel for the Ask NT Wright Anything podcast.

Drawing fromJesus and the Powers and Exiles: The Church in the Shadow of Empire, they ask what it means to follow Jesus when political loyalties divide congregations, nations and families. Should Christians vote, protest, withdraw, or engage? How should the church respond to nationalism, race, abortion, immigration, war and empire? Wright and Sprinkle explore the Bible’s political vision, the danger of idolatrous allegiance, and the need for Christians to model a different kind of kingdom: one shaped by unity, holiness, wisdom and the Sermon on the Mount.

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Released on 12 May 2026